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David Kir
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Posted - 2013.11.16 21:23:00 -
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Nope.
You might not have noticed, but CCP has already started delivering Seagull's plan.
Her vision is just the ultimate result of this development cycle, but we're going to see bits of it being slipped into the TQ code little by little, all over the remaining 30 months.
Rubicon 1.1 and the 2014 summer expansion will tackle the last ship balance issues (aw Hel yeah!), they'll probably start focusing on other major issues before THE BIG THING is fully delivered.
Yes, we've got a long time to wait, but rest assured, the game will undergo a heavy rehaul in the meanwhile.
The most positive part about this is that we once again have something to look forward to. Something big, something unknown. Something scary. Friends are like cows: if you eat them, they die. |
David Kir
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Posted - 2013.11.17 11:22:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:
They started delivering on their plan for Walking in Stations too. It's not about starting, it's about finishing. We'll just have to see if what they "finish" ends up being a pile of crap.
They announced WIS in 2006, announced Incarna in 2009, started delivering it in 2011. All of which while overlooking FIS.
Seagull's BIG THING has just been announced, and they're already working on it. While also working on improving the already existing content.
Similes are double-edged swords, learn to use them. Friends are like cows: if you eat them, they die. |
David Kir
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Posted - 2013.11.17 19:06:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:Jenn aSide wrote: Translation: EVE will die if it doesn't give us what we want.
Fixed your post for you. Games survive by giving people an experience they want. If you want to play a game that gives you all the things you don't want, then maybe you should get someone to shove you head down a hole full of dog crap (unless you happen to like that kind of thing). If you think it's nonsense that games companies should cater to their playerbase/potential playerbase then your an idiot. I didn't read the rest of your post. The stupid **** in the first sentence was enough for me to post crap about. Before you even try to defend it, how about you go and create a product that no one wants and see how that goes. Let us know how that works out for you.
Eh...us? Does that include me? Who's this mysterious "us", you and the other dozen (hundred? thousand? still irrelevant) players (and alts) whining on the forums? You do get it that these forums don't represent all of the EVE playerbase, right?
"A product that no one wants"? Oh boy, aren't you the presumptuous one. You know that yours is an opinion, right?
Players who are satisfied by the current situation don't need to come here and tell you about it. Now those who aren't, those do.
Friends are like cows: if you eat them, they die. |
David Kir
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Posted - 2013.11.17 19:16:00 -
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Shakira Khalessi wrote:OP is right.
Quite the significant contribution, isn't it?
And then people wonder why doesn't the average player bother with these forums. Friends are like cows: if you eat them, they die. |
David Kir
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Posted - 2013.11.17 19:51:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:David Kir wrote: Eh...us? Does that include me?
Of course it does. I never said what it was that we wanted. You even had the gall to call me presumptuous after writing a post entirely based on presumption. Your just picking arguments now because your pissed that you got your face virtually slapped earlier. If you didn't want what Eve is you wouldn't be playing. The point (which you so spectacularly missed), is that CCP need to cater to the largest group of people they can whilst alienating as few people as possible. And by cater, I mean give them what they want.
No, it doesn't. You've already expressed yourself as contrary to Seagull's plan, I am not presuming anything. There is no we that includes both of us, as far as this matter is concerned.
"You do get it that these forums don't represent all of the EVE playerbase, right?"
This is a fact.
""A product that no one wants"? Oh boy, aren't you the presumptuous one. You know that yours is an opinion, right?"
This is a fact, I (and others) do want Seagull's vision, your description of it as being "a product no one wants" is false and presumptuous.
"Players who are satisfied by the current situation don't need to come here and tell you about it. Now those who aren't, those do."
This is also a fact. Satisfied customers have no need to express their satisfaction.
I see no major cases of presumption.
Remind me when did I get "slapped". Friends are like cows: if you eat them, they die. |
David Kir
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Posted - 2013.11.17 20:00:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:So, "No one" wants rubicon, or EVE?
Read my last post to the other guy who missed the point. It applies to you as well. You two are meant for each other.
I didn't miss your point. CCP is already catering to the majority, discussing your point is fairly useless.
Seagull's plan doesn't exclude catering to the majority. Friends are like cows: if you eat them, they die. |
David Kir
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Posted - 2013.11.17 20:06:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:Pro-tip for arguing with people on the forums.
Try arguing about things someone says, rather than things you think they might have meant.
Pro-tip about language: it is not an universal mean of communication, and very often it does not convey the writer's intentions.
Its interpretation is subjective, which means that it will often be interpreted in unpredictable ways.
Personal perception: "things you think they might have meant".
Your tip is paradoxical. Friends are like cows: if you eat them, they die. |
David Kir
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Posted - 2013.11.17 20:25:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:[quote=David Kir
So in other words "I can interpret what you say however I like, nnnyyyyaaaaah"
No, in other words "It is your duty to express yourself in the clearest manner, not my duty to find the exact meaning you want to convey". Which is a fact. Friends are like cows: if you eat them, they die. |
David Kir
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Posted - 2013.11.17 20:36:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:
Not it's not. 1+1=2 is a fact. Global warming is a fact. Evolution is a fact. That, is your opinion. If you didn't understand then you should have asked. Why I am even speaking to someone who doesn't even know what fact means is beyond me. If you have so much difficulty understanding, maybe you should go back to school or read a dictionary. Idiot.
Aaaah, ad personam attacks. And with this, I can finally abandon this thread.
Friends are like cows: if you eat them, they die. |
David Kir
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Posted - 2013.11.17 20:52:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:David Kir wrote:Arduemont wrote:
Not it's not. 1+1=2 is a fact. Global warming is a fact. Evolution is a fact. That, is your opinion. If you didn't understand then you should have asked. Why I am even speaking to someone who doesn't even know what fact means is beyond me. If you have so much difficulty understanding, maybe you should go back to school or read a dictionary. Idiot.
Aaaah, the good old ad personam. And with this, I can finally abandon this thread. I think what you meant to say is "ad hominem". Which by the way, would imply you had an argument in the first place (for me to avoid by insulting you). Which you didn't. You should have abandoned the thread after your fist stupid post.
ad hominem Latin [+ªd -êh+Æm+¬-în+¢m] adj & adv 1. directed against a person rather than against his arguments [literally: to the man]
"Ad personam" and "Ad hominem" are synonymous expressions. Friends are like cows: if you eat them, they die. |
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David Kir
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Posted - 2013.11.17 20:58:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:
Hey, It is your duty to express yourself in the clearest manner, not my duty to find the exact meaning you want to convey. Maybe you should have used the more common (read correct) expression.
Ok, I get it, you're a troll. Friends are like cows: if you eat them, they die. |
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